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| Head Canon: Why did Trunks or Bulma never use the Namekian Dragon Balls? | |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2016, 07:19 PM Post #1 |
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This is question often asked by large portion of the fandom, and I think it's certainly a question worth considering. Even if Bulma and Trunks couldn't feasibly get to Namek, maybe as a result of a lack of proper materials to make a ship fast enough to get to New Namek, there's really no reason Kaio couldn't ask the Namekians on their behalf, right? Well, I think there's a way to get around that conundrum. We are all well aware of the differences between Trunks's future and the main timeline, so I personally don't think it's unreasonable to posit that the Namekians deemed the Dragon Balls too dangerous to keep around as a result of Freeza's invasion, so they destroyed them, or kept them inert after the Grand Elder's passing in Future Trunks's timeline. What do you guys think? Do you think this is a reasonable, as reasonable as it could be anyway, solution to this question? What are your thoughts on this whole conundrum? Feel free to posit your own head canons as well.
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 29 2016, 07:28 PM.
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| + Son-Goku | Jun 29 2016, 07:35 PM Post #2 |
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I do think they kept the Dragon Balls, there would be no reason for them to destroy them in my opinion. Now as for Trunks heading to Namek. I have two things to say about it. The first thing is that Trunks was almost instantly told about the arrival of Babidi by the Supreme Kai after Trunks killed Cell since Trunks said it was nine years later. However that is also nine year, that's a lot of time in between. My second thing is that everyone has been dead for a long time right? Would they really want to come back to life? It's not exactly that their bodies had decomposed, which could be one thing but that's not what I'm getting at, it's that they might not want to come back because it just doesn't feel right. Goku for one most likely wouldn't come back and I don't see any of the others wanting to come back either except for maybe Gohan. But he's like his father so he'd probably stay as well it would be Trunks's insistence if he did come back. So if they did know about the Namekian Dragon Balls and they did still exist I don't think Trunks and Bulma would go after them. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 29 2016, 07:54 PM Post #3 |
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They didn't know where New Namek was, and Kaiosama likely had no reason to contact them because he didn't know either of them personally.
Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jun 29 2016, 07:56 PM.
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| + Son-Goku | Jun 29 2016, 07:55 PM Post #4 |
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That's true. He was probably sleeping through all of Z-Fighters deaths. When Goku went to him King Kai had no idea about the Androids or Cell. He probably still thinks Goku and everyone are still alive. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 29 2016, 07:59 PM Post #5 |
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He probably would've known about it after since Goku and the rest would've shown up at his planet, but due to Piccolo being dead, the Dragonballs would've been gone. Bulma and Trunks likely wouldn't have had the resources to travel to Namek anyway, in addition to Trunks at that time only being a baby. Not to mention that they had no way of contacting Kaiosama. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jun 29 2016, 08:02 PM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2016, 08:03 PM Post #6 |
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And Goku couldn't ask Kaio to help them because...? The Namekian Dragon Balls existing at all creates plot holes in one form or another, as far as I can tell. The easiest solution is to get rid of them. |
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 29 2016, 08:05 PM Post #7 |
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Everyone in the future timeline both alive and dead is an a***** and moron. That's my headcanon. Seriously, Goku could've just asked King Kai for coordinates to New Namek then just contact them to revive everyone who died or provide Bulma with said coordinates and revive them herself (if she can build a time machine, she can build a space ship to New Namek). Piccolo and Gohan would train either in the afterlife or the ROSAT, kill 17 and 18 and the future would be saved. The future timeline does. Not. Work! Edited by ekrolo2, Jun 29 2016, 08:07 PM.
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| lazerbem | Jun 29 2016, 08:07 PM Post #8 |
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The fact that Bulma can make a freakin' time machine but can't come up with a space ship or some technological fix to the androids seems kind of silly to me. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 29 2016, 08:11 PM Post #9 |
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I agree it's not a perfect answer, but Goku at this point couldn't come back anyway because he'd died a natural death. Kaiosama only involved himself with the Saiyans because Goku was his student at the time, and his involvement with Freeza could be explained by the fact that Freeza himself spelled disaster for Kaiosama's jurisdiction. He never willingly contacted people outside gods and his students, or others that he'd met personally. There's no real reason to believe that he would willingly contact humans on Earth if it didn't involve him specifically. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jun 29 2016, 08:12 PM.
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 29 2016, 08:15 PM Post #10 |
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Goku can still ask him to do it, it would literally take up less than five minutes if his student Goku asked him to. There's no reason to assume Piccolo, Krillin, Yamcha, Chiaozu and Yajirobe wouldn't either end up at King Kai's or on Grand Kai's world. Literally five minutes it would take for him to tell Bulma where New Namek is or contact the Namekian's himself. Even if the Namekian Balls got deactivated, I think the Namekian's would do Goku and company a solid and reactivate them or make new ones just as a thank you for helping to ensure their species wasn't rendered extinct by Freeza. They certainly didn't mind assisting them in the Boo Saga. Thus, the only explanation for all of this is everyone decided to play a game called who can out-cunt Cersei Lannister and actively decided NOT to help anyone left on Earth because of it. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2016, 08:23 PM Post #11 |
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Maybe Goku did ask him. It's entirely possible that Kaio isn't allowed to help in this instance for whatever reason. Maybe he was allowed to help out the Saiyans because they were otherworldly threats that disrupted the peaceful lives of the Earthlings. The Artificial Humans are self-contained. |
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 29 2016, 08:27 PM Post #12 |
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That still creates a situation where the only possible explanation is either people are being a***** or idiots, though. King Kai doesn't have some invisible guillotine hanging over his head concerning his job, hell, in the Cell arc Goku asks him for help in finding the Namekian's to stop Cell who's a self-contained threat on Earth. He's not an alien being who's invading their planet, he's got alien bits and pieces but he'd have those anyway just from Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo,... |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 29 2016, 08:30 PM Post #13 |
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Cell isn't a self-contained threat... Self contained threat means he isn't a threat beyond Earth. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 29 2016, 08:48 PM Post #14 |
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Goku and everyone wouldn't have bodies in otherworld would they? You need a God to do that for you, and with Kami gone, and Kaio presumably not knowing everyone is dead, no ones there to give them one. |
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| + Son-Goku | Jun 29 2016, 08:53 PM Post #15 |
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Good points. The only thing I disagree with is that they wouldn't have any resources. If they have resources to build a time machine, then they have resources to build a spaceship and/or a Dragon Ball radar. Adding onto Dragon Radar is that Bulma was able to make one that could surf the whole entire Universe looking for Super Dragon Balls. A Bulma that made a Time Machine should have no issues coming up with a radar that could point towards the Namekian Dragon Balls. |
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